Did they end up graduating from engineering then moving to med school after they received an engineering degree? In reality, many engineering graduates have found their engineering education to be an exceptional preparation to pursuing careers in other professions, including medicine. I'll be over 30 years old by the time I am finally in the workforce and this is the best case scenario. This is a great opportunity to hear from current medical and nursing students in the midst of their programs, degrees, and doctorates. And the med schools are easier for international students to get into and they're less expensive. Of course, my 3.4 didn't prevent me from getting an admin job that summer with a decent pay. And my mom, she's a nurse but doesn't have a college degree, and doesn't speak English, not that she'd want to do anything to help me anyway. As usual on the OldPreMeds Podcast, our question is taken from the Nontrad Premed Forum: “I recently had a big wake up call about what I’d like to do as a career. Welcome to the Pre-Medical Society! Triplefudgebrownie (oh, boy, I'm getting a craving ).....I don't remember my exact GPA in high school....It was just a bit too low for me to be on High Honors, so it must've been 3.6. I personally think EngPhys/MECH/ELEC are great degrees if you want to innovate in the medical field. I just wanted to ask, does it suffer from grade deflation like U of T and McGill? I'll have transfer credits for most of my first-year courses, I think, so theoretically I should get into university and skip the "weeding out" process. 99th percentile. It's certainly very pronounced at my college which is very "concerned" with the issues of grade deflation (I think our average graduating GPA is like 3.5 or something, between B+ and A-). If you want to combine both, it's not impossible but you'd probably need to get an advanced degree (think PhD or MD/PhD). I swear, being an international student SUCKS. Neither are easy. A forum for non-standard applicants who have taken a less direct pathway to medicine or dentistry. I keep in touch with a lot of graduates because I joined a predominantly upperclassmen student org when I was a sophomore, and I can definitely tell you that the ones with the better grades are also the ones who ended up with better jobs. Now getting in is gonna be the *really* tricky bit. These are very competitive. A fair amount of engineers do work in the medical field (like robotics). I’m 24 years old, and I’m about to finish my undergrad in Emergency Services Administration. Hot New Top Rising. My general advice would be that you should go into MECH, ELEC, or ENPH and pick up biomed-related projects. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Posted by Med . We now deliver the workshop at each of our program sites every other year,” said Andrew. So no you don't need to specialize in a specific "pre-med" area (fuck, I hate the word pre-med). Are they planning to immigrate too? Put me back there today, and I probably would've had a 3.9 or so. By Upload or insert images from URL. Here's Why You Should Avoid Visiting Pre-Med Forums - (Frank Opinion About Premed101 by One of Our Admissions Experts) On December 15, 2014, the University of British Colombia (UBC) broke new ground by sharing with applicants that they actually do check the pre-medicine forums on the internet, notably Premed101. And as for UBC having the only medical school in BC, that sucks, it sucks even more that I won't be able to apply to it, since they don't take in any internationals. Like you said, going to medical school and becoming a doctor is indeed very different than innovating in the medical field. C is considered to be "average" and most professors will design a class where about half the students will get a C by exerting "average" effort. With the results returned, you will get diverse Edu/gov destinations. Amen to that... changing schools was hell for me. I went to UBC and most of my big science courses had class averages of around 65%. Also, if you are a landed-immigrant or permenant resident, I think that means you can apply in the Canadian pool. Hot. That's what my parents did, and I counted as part of the family as I was under 21 or 23 or whatever the "dependant" age is. To get high space authority Gov and Edu Sites/Forums physically for external link establishment, on any search engine, for instance, Google, reorder the following search strings below. Sometimes they care about the courses you've taken (if they're looking for specific skills, which happens fairly often in engineering jobs) but they very rarely ask for a transcript... most of the time they will take your word for it (which actually scares me a bit, I'm honest, but I'm sure there are people out there who would stretch the truth to get a job!) He spoke with First Nations Drum about how the workshop evolved the last 16 years. I am doing them to see if this really is something I want to pursue, and to demonstrate some biological familiarity when applying. The pre-med alternative path is really difficult to balance along with a heavy engineering course load. Admissions might be able willing to answer these things. This new path was launched in 2010 and is specific to students entering UBC Engineering in their first year. save. Biomedical engineers have a lot of limitations with respect to interacting with patients. Fucking blew the MCAT out of the water. I know a lot of people in my program (ENPH) who've gone on to work in biomed. Why do you need to be in a special program to take biology courses? . Paste as plain text instead, × But, take these courses when they fit best in your schedule. There is a high respect for engineers in health care settings (I do research at BC Children's Hospital) so there are lots of medical/engineering overlap if you know where to look. I think my grade 12 average will be.. hmmm, it's hard to tell because my exams are external and so we get our results a couple of months after taking the exam, but I'd say I have a chance of getting a Grade 12 average above 95 (my mid-term average was 99). I want to spend my life creating things. Eh, you're talking to one right now ;-). Results of a study conducted at Florida State University in 2009 demonstrated that medical schools significantly preferred applicants who earned their degrees in a traditional in-person setting compared to those who completed some of their courses online. maybe easier to get into med there if u speak french and are willing to learn med in french? The Biomedical Engineering Program is another Pre-Med path available to UBC engineering students. You must therefore specify that you want your test results sent to UBC.   Your link has been automatically embedded. I've heard the guys there are really hot. And no, as far as I know no school in Canada offers premed, but what I meant by premed was one of the biological courses, the kind of courses students usually take if they wanna get into med school - Biochemistry etc. Close. I know it does that to a lot of people. Only 2-3 engineers make it in UBC Med each year. And why I wanna go to Canada specifically for meds... well, it seems like a much better place to live than the US and England, and I want my diploma to be recognised worldwide. Did they just end up specializing in Biomedical in the second year of UBC and graduated with a Biomedical undergrad? Having an MD allows for more patient contact and you can still use your engineering if you go into the private sector or work in a biomedical engineering department in a hospital. Ah well. I also like the idea of living in CA better than the US or UK... just something about the people. That being said, UBC and many other Canadian med schools have removed all prerequisites for medical school. There's always the option to become a clinician-scientist (MD/PhD) which has a focus on research and medical innovation. Some of my Econ classes would have 28 students and the expectations were 2 As, 5 Bs, and the rest Cs and a few Ds (Ds not alloted of course). Bottom Line: Don't take the premed alternative path. James Andrew is the UBC MD undergraduate admissions coordinator. Given that we were all students in the same class, and I know them to some extent, I can attest to the fact that they did NOT have any extra job experience that could've made the difference. However, since then my semester GPA has varied from 3.5 to 3.9, so I wouldn't say I'm doing worse than I did in high school by any means. Don't worry about how long, whatever it is you want to do, will take. They put really cool stuff together and are definitely innovating in such a way that's creating better outcomes for patients and doctors - everything from better ultrasounds to rehab devices. http://www.bme.ubc.ca/undergraduate-studies/pre-med-alternative-path/. Like someone else said, MECH, ELEC, ENPH, or BMEG engineering specializations are all good routes to medical school. Arts. I received my offer into the Pre-Med Engineering path 3 days ago and I've been thinking it over, but I am not completely decided in what I want to do. I've been volunteering heavily in first aid and living in a family with a difficult medical past in cancer I know that working in medicine/healthcare is something that I could commit the rest of my life to. Oh yeah, I know what you mean, I'm an international in the US right now. It's extremely difficult. If they have college degrees, some relevant work experience, and a good command of English and/or French (being bilingual is not necessary even though it's a bonus), they can immigrate under the skilled worker category. Thanks! I was rejected immediately, even though I had a variety of tough courses on my resume, speak 5 languages, work while in school, volunteer constantly, etc. Many informative, intellectual, and amazing medical experiences await your medical path! UBC medical school has some specific medical school requirements. Whether you are not invited this time or don't get an offer, please do not give up. There definitely is a demand for engineering undergrads in medical school, and the difficulty of your undergrad is taken into account (despite what they might say publicly on the website). It's extremely difficult to fit in 27 extra credits in your four years. Got accepted to med school after 3rd year. GPA is definitely not all, as I do know someone with a 4.0 who failed at securing desirable employment after graduation. I happened to check the stats of this year's graduating class at my school yesterday, and half the people are graduating with Honors (above 3.5 GPA). Anyone doing premed at UBC, Id love to know what you think of it. 3 years ago. card. I should get credits for most of my first year classes anyway, so I hope that'll kind of "cushion" me.. Oh yeah, and I *would* do the courses again - but quite frankly, I just wanna get my undergrad degree out of the way as soon as possible - the less time I have to spend in it, the less money I have to spend too. Modpost. Also, don't do coop if you have connections to a medical device company. Archived. We are excited to announce that the upcoming 2020-21 UBC MD Admissions interviews will be held completely virtually in 2021. Clear editor. Being on this forum for a short while, I have interacted with some of you and must say all of you are amazing. Plus he wasn't exactly planning on having me (he was 56 when I was born), so I guess he didn't think of applying for those things when he was younger. That way you can leave it til later to decide whether to pursue med school and still get to work on cool projects like these. Has your average dropped since high school? That being said, UBC and many other Canadian med schools have removed all prerequisites for medical school. (sorry if that was too personal of a question). He has a PhD in Engineering, speaks fluent English and a bit of French, so I think he could definitely apply as a skilled worker immigrant, but he's convinced that they wouldn't let him, because of his age (it's true in a way - how do you convince people that you're gonna work when you're 73?). A portion of these destinations is discussions or websites which you can register or remark on. r/UBC: The online community of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada! They further I get into MECH the more and more I see students leaving engineering for medical school, law school, comp sci, etc. Home Join Events Office Hours and Location About Us Contact Sponsors Your Medical Journey Starts Here! By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Where's your family? This change has been made to ensure the continued safety of all participants, including applicants, interviewers, and administrative staff, as we continue to experience the COVID-19 pandemic. It really depends. 9 9. Some jobs won't care about GPAs because the intellectual abilities of candidates, well, don't play that much of a role. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Hot New Top. :eek. And the reason why I want to follow this medical route is to create new solutions for illnesses. Posted by. I'm looking at 5 or 5.5 years (which my parents aren't too pleased about lol) but it's been really good for my mental health and grades. You really don't need to be that sharp to be a good office assistant or customer service representative. I already have an internship this summer at a medium sized medical innovations firm which could pan out into something more permanent, but I have to decide now if I should be deciding to go to medical school and if I should be part of this Alternative Pre-Med Route.   You cannot paste images directly. Again, just thinking out loud. Posted by . Students who wish to apply to medical school who are enrolled in the Biomedical Engineering Program should take one additional English course as one of their complementary studies electives. I'm really getting fed up with not being able to get into med school as an international student - I've only found 6 med schools in CA that take internationals. I've had a few Canadian folks come to my school, and they said their average dropped... so you could conclude that Canadian schools are easier to get high marks in. how does UofT suffer from grade deflation? So I've given up on US and Canada just happened accidentally. If you in the IB program, and getting very high 90's (like 99, yikes!8o ), you should not worry so much about your future marks in university. How likely am I to learn the skills that I need for this going through the UBC Biomedical undergrad. We are excited to announce that the upcoming 2020-21 UBC MD Admissions interviews will be held completely virtually in 2021. ", Yup, you're right, I *would* be able to apply in the Canadian pool, if I was a permanent resident... which I am not. UBC COURSE QUESTION, PROGRAM, MAJOR AND REGISTRATION MEGATHREAD (2020W & 2021S): Questions about courses (incld. Either way, you might have an easier time as an international student if you attend a Canadian undergrad university. Yeah. But I have to say he was not a citizen or permanent resident of the US and it was in May 2002, at the worst part of the economic recession in the States, so MANY grads, including those from Harvard were also unsuccessful in securing a job. This change has been made to ensure the continued safety of all participants, including applicants, interviewers, and administrative staff, as we continue to experience the COVID-19 pandemic. Display as a link instead, × Por moderadorblog - Miércoles 27 de junio del 2007 . Read more about this here! I don't know much about the BioMed program - but from what I understand it's offered in two departments. :-) Thanks! I was wondering if anyone knew anything about how competitive these programs are? I'm learning more towards engineering. MCAT Prep. You should budget in an extra year for the premed classes. All applicants (except UBC students) seeking credit for the English requirement must send one set of official AP, IB or A Level transcripts directly to the Admissions Office by the application deadline. Hey, I'm considering going to UBC for premed. It seems ridiculous to me though....do they seriously think a college graduate with a C-average on his or her diploma will be able to get any job?:x. That only takes a year to complete - I could apply when I start my undergrad degree and (Insha'Allah) get it by the time I'm 19. Making a difference: UBC students help frontline medical workers during COVID-19 Here in the States they are broken up (like, General Chem is a 2 semester sequence, etc). Our office does not accept electronic copies of AP or A Level transcripts. :-) … But in my 100-person chemistry class, for example, there was no set quota. My mother applied 3 years ago and they STILL haven't gotten to reviewing her file. OK, so if the professor aims for half the students to get Cs, does he set a set proportion of students who should get As? "......not to scare you or antyhing, but there is a reason why second year courses are not first year courses", Re: "I was also an international student, so I had to deal with having to adapt to a new environment and has some, though not extreme, language barrier.". I'm looking at 5 or 5.5 years (which my parents aren't too pleased about lol) but it's been really good for my mental health and grades. do they seriously think a college graduate with a C-average on his or her diploma will be able to get any job. Expand for more options. r/UBC. You probably will be in a constant state of stress for the duration of your degree. u/yoyoyoing. 460 comments. Since I received my offer to UBC engineering a month ago I've known that Biomedical engineering was for me. For example ENPH leaves room for 5 technical electives, all of which can be biology courses if you like; and there is nothing preventing you from taking more than 5exceptyourownsanity. Coop is such a nightmare. Some profs will set up a very rigid structure in terms of how many of what grades will be given out. 432. do they seriously think a college graduate with a C-average on his or her diploma will be able to get any job?:x. They were already overwhelmed with their engineering coursework and did not want to do difficult life science courses on top. But of course something got messed up and my parents got their PR cards over a month ago and nobody knows where mine is. You deserve to live your dream and it is within your reach. If you want to be a "normal" doctor, for the love of god do not do engineering at UBC. News:-Come out for our IceBreaker on Oct 4 … I 'd say that first year was the hardest just because its really hard to adjust to univ,,, it takes u at least one semester to learn how to study,, so usually people have low marks during their first year,,, u also have to consider that at ubc, first year classes are HUGE... some classes have as much as 500 ppl in them,, so its really hard to do well (best example is second year organic chemistry where the midterm avg is about 40-45%).. on the other hand, at the end, for most science courses the avg has to be around 69 or something but it totally depends on the prof if he wants to have it higher. Also.....it's common knowledge that in highly competitive programs (pre-med, economics, etc) there's a certain degree of "weeding out" practices. :/. Engineering education is generally seen as the first step towards practising the profession of engineering. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts . So this is done after your engineering degree. I guess I could start working and immigrate after my undergrad degree... then apply for medicine... but getting an MD is long enough as it is, without any gaps. All we were asked to do was send in our resumes and then he would contact those who he was most interested in. It's extremely difficult to fit in 27 extra credits in your four years. 0. premed advice. How hard is it to get a high GPA at UBC? save. I've heard the BioMed Engineering program is one of the tougher engineering degrees. Guest triplefudgebrownie, May 26, 2005 in General Premed Discussions. Programs are available at the undergraduate, graduate and postgraduate levels, as well as through continuing professional education and public education initiatives. Anyone have an … I'm not at UBC in case anyone has this impression. You can post now and register later. I'm not even applying until next year. 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